The Truth About Routines: Part 1
Posted in Pickup on 03/22/2010 03:03 am by DJ FujiNote: This is the first part in a running series of articles about the use of routines in learning game. For more information on routines, see all articles on routines.
Routines, scripts, lines, things to say. Some love ‘em, some hate ‘em, nearly everyone misunderstands them.
For those who are unfamiliar with the term, a routine is simply a memorized script of varying length. So in essence, both our kneejerk “fine” response to “how are you?” and a memorized, pre-scripted story are routines. One is simply longer and more complex than the other. Obviously, all of us use routines in one way or another.
Routines (whether yours or someone else’s) can also take the form of being canned, meaning that you’ve practiced them over and over again until you can deliver them well, or Stock, which means they’re generic, off-the-shelf scripts, usually created by others. Both can be very useful tools, especially if you don’t have a lot of natural talent.
Now before we move on, let’s take a quick quiz.
Question: What do you think is the main purpose for routines? What is the main purpose for openers? Now what is the main purpose for attraction routines? Stories?
Think about it for a minute.
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Ready for the answer? If you said “to open,” “to get attraction,” or “to DHV,” you’re in agreement with most of the community. Unfortunately, you’re still incorrect. That’s short term thinking, and it’s an extremely common mistake.
The correct answer to all of these questions is the same: To teach you a skill.
That’s it.
Not to hook sets, or to open a set, or to get attraction, or to get you laid.
A routine is simply a training wheel to teach you a specific skill—in the same way that training wheels on a bike are designed to teach you to RIDE. In the same way that “floaties” are designed to teach you to become comfortable in the water and to swim. Like training wheels, routines are NOT primarily designed to keep you upright or afloat. The word for that is crutch.
I didn’t understand this concept for a long time. No one ever explained it to me. I was a hard-core Mystery Method guy in the 2005-2006 timeframe and I thought canned routines were the best thing since sliced bread. I thought routines were there to get you laid. Even Mystery still used routines. They had to be the holy grail of pickup, right?
The problem was that I was trying to use the WHAT without understanding the WHY. I was trying to use them for short term gain instead of their more useful long term development.
Routines are MOST useful when used for skill development. Stories, for example, are not primarily designed to create comfort, or attraction, or even to get a result in a set. They are designed to teach you storytelling. Any result you get from their use is secondary. Likewise, banter is designed to teach you humor and playfulness. Push-pull is designed to teach you to be a challenge and to not be predictable and boring. Openers are designed to teach you to engage people and hold court in groups. Oftentimes these routines can get us better results infield, but sometimes they do not. Sometimes they can intentionally blow us out (like the infamous “Shocker” routines from BradP).
And that’s ok.
Because we aren’t using them directly to get better results. We’re using them to teach us the skills that will make us more attractive, and ultimately, more successful.
The main problem a lot of guys have using routines is that they use them for the wrong reasons. Don’t use routines as crutches so you don’t have to learn to think on your feet. Use them as training wheels to teach you the fundamentals.
And conversely, if you’re not naturally talented socially, don’t shy away from routines because you think they’re inauthentic or disingenuous. They’re no more inauthentic than when you tell a story that you’ve told before, or when someone says hello and you response with, “hi.” Not using routines when you lack natural talent is like not practicing free throws when you lack natural basketball ability – namely, stupid. Even Shaq finally started practicing free throws.
Stand up comedians, politicians, public speakers, and basically anyone on a stage learn to speak using routines (unless you’re a former president who just tries to improvise). Only they call them speeches. Sometimes they write their own speeches, and other times they have someone else write them. But the end result is the same – they learn to speak by practicing their speeches. If you want to become good at pick up, you must do the same.
Eventually, you’ll lose the need to use routines. If you’ve been using routines correctly for more than a year and they’re starting to get you diminishing returns, you’re probably at that point. You probably need to start dropping them and teaching yourself how to improvise. That doesn’t mean you’ll always improvise everything 100%, but you want to progress to where you no longer need routines. You’ll no longer have to rely on them. You’ll be able to tell stories on the fly. You’ll be able to banter because you understand the concepts and underlying mechanisms. You’ll be able to open with whatever’s on your mind.
You will become a natural.
And that, gents, is really the goal of all of this. Unconscious competence. To internalize your skill set so much that you no longer think about it. To have such social mastery that at times, you take your own skills for granted because they are executed so effortlessly. That’s what you should be working towards.
Don’t gaze at the trees so long that you lose sight of the forest.
Coming soon: Part 2 in “The Truth About Routines” — Getting Started






03/24/2010 at 21:09
This article kicks ass! I like your teaching style a lot man, looking forward to Part 2. ( =
03/28/2010 at 20:28
I love you DJ Fuji! There I said it.
04/01/2010 at 21:46
Hey Fuji,
Awesome article, can’t wait to read (and apply of course) what’s written in others.
By the way, remember when you talked about weirdness of some Mehow’s material? Looks like Mehow himself has finally realized that LOL. Check this audio that got today http://www.acceleratedattractionsystem.com/content/sale-audio.php – about 1:45. He even has a new fancy name for this phenomenon: “Weirdness Overload” haha.
FF
04/04/2010 at 20:28
Awesome post DJ, great stuff as always. This is a must-read for newbies and a great context for guys who may be struggling with the should or shouldn’t I use routines conundrum.
04/05/2010 at 00:26
@Frozen Flame: Yeah my entire 10SSA Live speech was about not being weird. Glad people are finally realizing that.
04/07/2010 at 19:31
By the way, what’s the best way to get good at telling stories?
04/15/2010 at 15:01
@Jeff: Do it a lot.
Follow 3 main steps —
1.) Practice delivering stock (pre-scripted) stories until you get good results from them
2.) Learn storytelling structure and start writing your own stories out
3.) Rehearse and practice until you can start doing storytelling on the fly (without having to write them out first)
05/31/2010 at 23:05
Never looked at it that way before but it makes a ton of sense! As you can tell, I am a newbie and I am eager to learn from whichever masters who have substance. You seem to have a good deal of it
Looking forward to more of your posts sir
Game On!
06/21/2010 at 03:04
This article explained really clearly what’s the purpose behind routines. I was very scared to use routines because I fear the girls will find out I am bad at talking and had to use Internet to help myself.
Now I can think more logically and use it for the right way to benefit myself.I was doing a lot of boring interview questions which is what I thought is natural/authentic but it’s so boring and repetitive.Routines are like interesting story that had been told many times to friends or family or co-workers. I observed naturals talkative person in their 40s 50s they always have some little stories to add to the conversation from the PAST, which means it was a routine used again and again but in different setting and time. They said it because it was interesting and relevant.